Advanta Credit Card Scam

I sit at my desk completely frustrated with Advanta. I opened up a business credit card with them 3 years ago and made a purchase of $6500 to help build my business credit for Rapid Recovery Solution, my Collection Agency. I have paid more then the minimum every month, on time. Three months ago I noticed that my interest rate seemed a little high. No where on my statement did it say the actual interest rate so I called the company. After 10 min or so I get a live rep on the line and they tell me it is 36.1%. Are they kidding, this must be a mistake. I have over a 750 score and never missed a payment. They said they sent me a notice in Aug that they are doing this due to a change in there lending methods. It turns out this is the second time this year they did this. I went from 8.99% in Jan 08 to 18.99 in Feb 08 to 36.1% in Aug 08.

Now, being in the industry for over 10 years I know that I need to watch my credit. I look for charges I didn’t make and it is tough to scam me. I have seen it all but this takes the cake. They told me I am now at a high risk for default so that is why they raised my interest rate? That doesn’t make any sense. They should lower my rate if they think I will default on my credit card. How will an increase in what you are charging me keep me from defaulting. Luckily, I have the ability to pay off this card today but I want everyone to realize that these companies have you by the short-n-curly’s. Watch your statements and lookout for this scam.

FYI, In NY, the maximum interest rate is 30%. They are charging me more then the maximum allowed in my state. I will send a letter to the BBB, the NY Attorney General, the UT Attorney General and the Department of Consumer Affairs.

As a nation we are in deep trouble. If a credit card company can just raise my rate because they feel like it I am positive that 99% of their customers are also paying 36.1%. How many other credit card companies are doing this to innocent people? We need to fight back. I am going to tell as many people as I can.

Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do except payoff the card. I was told I am a high credit risk. I paid the bill in full after I realized the rate was so high and the next month I received another bill for more finance charges for about $255. I paid that bill in full. I just received another bill in the mail for $5.65 and my rate was changed to 37.99%. Another point higher.

I had a few minutes so I called again to see why the rate went up again and they said “Sir, you have been classified as a very high credit risk and as a company we can’t risk you not paying your bill with us.” I said “I just paid my bill in full with your company, I have never had a late payment with your company in three years, I have one mortgage on my house for $290K, 25 years left at a fixed rate of 5.375% and it is worth over $500k and almost zero credit card debt personally. I am in the fastest growing industry right now, CNBC expects the debt collection industry to grow at 25% a year for the next decade. What else would I have to do to receive a better rate?” The extremely rude lady said “Sir, you would need to send a letter to Santa Clause and maybe he can help you out.”

The Government should put a maximum rate in place for the next year or so on all credit card debt. If the credit card companies are truly worried about consumers defaulting on their obligations, wouldn’t it make more sense to lower the rate so we can continue to make the payments? By raising the rate, it only makes it harder to pay and more likely that a consumer will default. The credit card companies are preying on the weak right now hoping you don’t pay so they can pound you with the highest interest rate. When you do default, they now have a higher balance to sell to a collection agency. In my eyes, this is a crime.

The Government doesn’t care either. Instead of giving the banks 350 billion dollars, They could have sent $1151.98 to each US citizen to pay towards credit card debt. The banks still get the money but we the people get a little break on our bill. The average family of four would receive $4607.92 to pay off a credit card. They reason that the banks need the money so they can lend money again to us? Are they crazy? All the banks did was raise the interest rates on our cards and pocket the money without ever having to say what the money went towards. No accountability!

Now the geniuses in Washington are considering giving billions to the auto industry so they can produce more shit cars that we can’t afford. How about giving the money to everybody with a current auto loan so we can pay for the car we already have. The money would still flow to the banks and auto makers via we the people.

Good luck America, your gonna need a miracle.

I feel better now. I was very upset prior to writing this blog. I hope everybody reading this realizes that if it can happen to me it can happen to anybody.

John Monderine Rapid Recovery Solution, Inc.

John Monderine is the President of Rapid Recovery Solution, Inc. a Debt Collection Agency. If you need help getting your Accounts Receivable collected visit his Collection Agency website for a free quote. This article, Advanta Credit Card Scam is available for free reprint.

The What And When Of Collection Agencies.

Debt collection agencies are used by creditors that need to collect money when the they don’t have the time, resources or patience to effect collections on their own. Collection agencies are experts in getting people to resolve money issues, they have trained staff that specializes in debt negotiation and skip-tracing. This training covers a broad range of the governing rules of the FDCPA, along with legal and debt collecting skills that have served as a proven process for going after accounts.


As a creditor, when you hire a collection agency, they are assigned the job of collecting the debt. Normally, if the agency is successful in debt collection the collection agency will retain a percentage of the amount collected as payment for services.

Some agencies will buy the accounts but most will not. The debtor does not actually owe the collection agency any money but they still owe the debt to the original creditor. By law the collection agency must provide, if asked, proof of the debt (known as validation of debt) that they have been assigned the account for collections on behalf of the creditor.

Occasionally, collection agencies will purchase the debt from the creditor. However, usually all that the collection agencies acquire is the right to carry out the process of debt collection.

All collection agencies are governed by federal laws and no collection agency is, or wishes to be in, the business of collecting fraudulent debts. However, when acting on behalf of a legitimate creditor they will take all legal steps to enforce the collection of badly overdue accounts, if necessary going to court on behalf of the creditor.

You should use a collection agency when -You know the debtor has the ability to pay the debt is that is due and there are no announced reasons for not paying

the debtor gives you broken promises The debtor refuses to pay voluntarily they have not filed bankruptcy

The amount past due is disputed when there is an unrelated claim against you, the debtor’s solvency is in doubt or there is the possibility of bankruptcy that offers security to recover or a possible prejudgment remedy

If any of these issues occur, the creditor should control all pertinent legal decisions such as if and when to file suit, what attorney to use and any other decisions made prior to or during the court action. This is crucial when the creditor has a long term interest in keeping the customer as his client. Not retaining control of such decisions and proceeding without the advice of a qualified legal representative could leave the creditor open to counter suit.

The option exists where the creditor does not wish to do additional business and the creditor is not interested in the outcome of a debt collection. Beyond getting his money, he may try to sell the debt to a debt purchaser.

Mallory Megan is employed by a collections agency that works with a debt collection lawyer. Also, she does pieces on business and finance, the credit industry and collections agencies. Don’t reprint this exact article. Instead, reprint a free unique content version of this same article.

How To Collect Debt

The main point is, the more time that passes between the time the payment was owed and the time the consumer is contacted, the less likely you are to packet any sort of payment. If you’re serious about making a turnout, there are three ways to handle collection on past debt; in house efforts, hiring a collection agency, or taking legal action.


Collecting the debt unassisted: If the debt is new or small, in all probability you will start by trying to collect the debt yourself before hiring a collection agency or a lawyer. The most productive way to start the process of collecting an uncollected debt is by calling the debtor. Many nonpaying customers can talk a great talk on the phone, but then never deliver. If the business is local, do one’s best to make an appointment with their finance manager to talk face to face.

Another useful way to motivate consumers to make a payment is by using a 10 day demand letter. Some collection agencies offer a free 10 day demand letter service that includes postage and mailing of a demand letter sent on official collection agency letterhead. Many times, this is enough to get your customer to part with their payment.

Hire a Collection Agency: Many small enterprises at the beginning dont think of hiring a collection agency to collect oustanding debt, but of the outsourced solutions, a collection agency is usually the most cost effective and gets the best results. With a collection agency, you don’t pay until they collect the debt, meaning that the collection agency is highly inclined to find a way to get the customer to pay. Because they don’t get paid unless you do, a collection agency tends to work fast and much more efficient when working on a contingency basis.

Today’s current collection agencies don’t use scare tactics or bully customers. Besides, not all clientle who are behind on payments are deadbeats. When you choose a collection agency, make sure one of its goals is to maintain extreme professionalism and one that fallows the FDCPA diligently.

Taking the legal avenue: Another choice to collecting a debt is to take legal action whether by taking the debtor to small claims court or by hiring a lawyer to pursue the debtor.

Mallory McGuinness works for a collections agency that works with a debt collection lawyer. Also, she writes pieces on business and finance, the credit industry and collections agencies.

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